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June 04, 2004Fighting through the grind
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"Iron rusts from disuse; stagnant water loses its purity and in cold weather becomes frozen; even so does inaction sap the vigor of the mind." Well I don't have any coherent ideas for a centrally-themed post, so I guess I'll just ramble. Lots of stuff on my mind, mostly thoughts inspired by Jesse May's "Shut up and Deal", which I finished reading this morning. Shut up and Deal The central "truth" that Jesse ends up at is that the key to long term success in poker is not mastering poker strategy and tactics, but accepting the slings and arrows of fate. It's easy to talk about standard deviation and variance and big bets per hour, but what are you gonna do when your Aces get cracked three times in a row at $50-100, and you're stuck five grand? You've got more skill than the guy who rivered his inside straight, you know all the outs, the odds, but you just lost five grand. Figuring out how to accept that is the hard part of poker. "Poker is a combination of luck and skill. People think mastering the skill part is hard, but they're wrong. The trick of poker is mastering the luck. That's philosophy. Understanding luck is philosophy, and there are some people who aren't ever going to fade it. That's what sets poker apart. And that's what keeps everyone coming back for more." Limit vs. No Limit But that's poker. There was a lot of money to be made at that table, and it wasn't too hard to get somebody all in when you were a 70% favorite. But the poker gods were unkind, and I began to think the optimal strategy in that game was to just wait for the nuts and double up. You could do that probably once or twice an hour if you were lucky, and the variance would be a lot less. But that's coward poker, leaving money on the table like that. If I'm there, I'm gonna push my edges, push them so hard that I end up drowning in the fish tank if the cards aren't kind. In limit poker, you have to make radical adjustments to your play when you're playing against a school of fish. The same goes for NL. I don't have the experience yet to know what these adjustments are, but I think I'm starting to get the idea. I'm not quite sure where I stand on NL-- the highest limit NL game at HP is $200, so Limit is where the real money's at. I'm not sure where I stand on NL, but I want to learn the game. You get better or worse, you never stay the same My protege, Monk, on the other hand, finally has been learning at a superhuman pace. I took great pride in watching him destroy two $1-2 tables the other night, and his bankroll has been growing steadily. It was great to see that my "teaching" had finally paid off, and he made a lot of plays that I considered questionable, but he usually ended up being correct-- he explained that the 1-2 tables have a different breed of fish, and some of the plays he was making used his knowledge of his opponents. At this point I don't think I have much left to teach him, although every time you jump in limits the learning process starts over. I've also taken up some of the blackjack bonuses offered on Grubby's site (it just shows you how much I want to move up to $15-30). Although I somehow felt like my dignity had gone out the window, I have to admit it was mesmerizing watching the computer fly through 5000 hands on autoplay. Someday I'll have a big enough bankroll that I won't have to stoop to such bonus whoring, but for now the free money is too good to pass up. And I felt a bit silly buying my first pair of poker sunglasses, but I'm tired of getting caught staring at someone's eyes when they are checking their hole cards. We'll see if I can actually bring myself to put them on at the table. I'm too tired to do a full poker blog patrol, but I did want to point to long time RGP poster Dave L's RGP posts about going pro. I know I miss the weekly DavidRoss updates, so check out Dave L's conservative approach to playing poker for a living. Have a good weekend everybody-- don't leave chips on the table. Posted by hdouble at June 4, 2004 03:58 PM | TrackBack Maximize your profits: learn how to use the most powerful tool in online poker. Comments
Nice post. You think whoring for a 40% bonus is pathetic? Check this out: I'm back playing on Empire, but only because they gave me $10 free. I have to play 300 raked hands in order to collect. Yeesh. I'm up $52 so far after 7 hours of play. Those .50/1 tables aren't slapping me around and calling me names like they used to. I suppose I could take some of my grad school loan money and use it for poker instead of cigarettes and booze, but that'd be ... I don't know, maybe it'd be more responsible. ;) Posted by: glyphic at June 5, 2004 10:56 PMYour several references to opponents as "fish" reveals the hubristic nature of a rookie who is full of himself and rationalizes every lost hand as one in which the "fish" should't have participated in the first place. You're an intelligent and fine writer who will experience Many "slings and arrows of outrageous fortune", until many more lost dollars flee your bank account because the "fish" swim against your current, and refuse to capitulate. Humility is a hard lesson. Posted by: Coach at June 6, 2004 09:55 AMLOL. coach, i think your people reading skills need some work. i see this mentality you speak of exhibited all over the internet. yes, it exists, and i agree with your thoughts on said subject. but the fact that you think hank is guilty of this mentality smacks of craziness. the semantics of what 'defines a fish' is truly subjective. is there another name you would prefer? gambloors? poor players? Posted by: iggy at June 6, 2004 07:50 PMI'm intrigued by Coach's analysis... is he a long time reader of this page? What, outside of one short set of remarks about guys shoving their chips in with A9o, is his conclusion of overconfidence based on? I get the impression Hank is equipped well enough to respond on his own, but the following go without saying: 1.) The fact that the fish "refuse to capitulate," as Coach says, is the reason WHY poker is a profitable experience for those willing to study it. If they did "capitulate," online poker would be in a world of hurt. 2.) Is it "hubris" to know you're a 71% favorite with TT vs A9o? Or is knowing that and pushing your edge something more akin to "selective aggression"? Posted by: Kevin at June 6, 2004 09:56 PMI gotta say, I'm glad Coach is calling it as he is- and not at all because I think Hank is a fish or hubristic. A lot of people are both, tho. I just got done writing a post about how NL kicked my ass and how critical adaptation is, and IMHO climbing that long, steep learning curve is no easy trick for anyone. Ergo **relative to many other players including most we all play against** we are all somewhat fishy. Any poker player would be wise indeed to consider that he is not as good as he wants to believe- in fact, on that WPT show where Randy Jensen lost to Barry Greenstein a few weeks back, he told Shana that he was good enough to beat anybody even tho his results didn't exactly prove that. Randy proves that even at the highest levels, let alone the bottom-feeding swamps we troll, players persist in misreading their own skills. It's a dangerous habit... Coach advises we get over ourselves, and I second the advice. Posted by: kuboa at June 7, 2004 02:55 PMIn my experience, H is humbler than he should be. I would not attribute these faults to him though I would attribute them to many poker bloggers (myself not least among them). tp. Posted by: tp at June 7, 2004 09:51 PMWhat are poker sunglasses? Are they different from my Wayfarers? No wonder I suck... Coach, you need to read a hell of a lot more from Hank before giving free rein to your own hubris and commenting like a fool. Hank is a humble cow dog, and I've had the pleasure of watching him in action on many occasions. Since you post anonymously, we have no way to know your own bona-fides, but your comments display a distinct lack of knowledge about this particular opponent. Let's see some of your musings put on the interweb, so we can all ascertain how great of a poker mind you might be. All that and your capitalization and punctuation suck to high, holy hell. Get a text editor or something. I hate anonymous a-holes. Sorry, Hank. Posted by: Scott Chaffin at June 8, 2004 04:30 PMPost a comment
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